A reply to the far left.
“Could the FLA develop into a fully-fledged fascist movement?
James Harvey – Weekly Worker”
I recently read your article that appeared in “Weekly Worker” regarding the Football Lads Alliance (FLA) – I would like to exercise a right of reply in my own blog, as you have failed to publish this in on your website despite a request for you to avoid acting censorial.
I also write this, appreciative and fully aware of the political orientation and intent behind your organisation; When new groups such as the FLA emerge from nowhere in such vast numbers, the speed and acceleration catch people off guard, everyone is curious, fascinated and perhaps even a tad unsure.
Inevitably, heads will turn, from not only the media but invested political factions, in particular, the outliers, those on the far left who willfully seek to identify and manufacture new adversaries, to help enhance their Marxist political agenda – to foster and nurture the inevitable accompanying identity politics.
The reporting to date by the majority of media companies on FLA marches, with one or two notable exceptions, has been largely negative and outright false. Much of your own article contains ludicrously fallacious equivocations to a dangerous history that takes some fairly acrobatic mental effort to entwine. This is not going to be a new chapter in Christopher Brownings “Ordinary Men”.
Get over it.
Unfortunately, and somewhat predictably, the far left has already attempted to poorly and misleadingly define the FLA, through the distorted lens and ignorant judgement, no fact checking here please, let’s just make up our own.
Hysterical socialists like your good self, are already playing out the “race card” narrative at every opportunity, in hope that the FLA can be caricatured and smeared as a “far-right” organisation (yawn) providing scant evidence to justify their disingenuous and almost always, misrepresentative lies and deceit.
Unfortunately and rather tediously, the FLA has to perpetually indulge this nonsense, needlessly countering baseless claims which are presented as “factual” by organisations such as “Stand Up To Racism” (SUTR) and other communist offshoot organisations seeking to mould anything not of themselves as an adversary, an enemy, so they can smugly justify their bigotry and paradoxical racism.
The irony is that SUTR is quite possibly one of the most racist organisations that exist in the UK, with their loathing of anything that doesn’t subscribe or abide by the Marxist playbook.
Even in its infancy, the FLA has gone to great lengths to separate itself publicly away from any provocative “extremist” groups such as BNP, EDL and Britain First. This hateful and tired, old xenophobic and racist bile is not recognised nor welcome in any way by the FLA, the FLA reject such divisive ideology. Many of their most involved members and affiliates are from a multitude of ethnic backgrounds.
Please, the race card is becoming so tiresome, move on.
If you examine the last two marches you’ll see many colours, religions and cultures, however, the far left only see what they want to see, continuing to self-indulge in snide, bigoted remarks about the lack of intelligence, academic ability and education of this group of working-class people. It’s disgusting and shameful behaviour.
To offer some further insight into how strongly the FLA feel about race and Muslims in particular, I’ll share this statement I pulled from their Facebook group – it’s under “Rules for the FLA” which now collectively has over 100,000 members across social media.
Once you read it, please, feel free to highlight the racism.
“There are no political affiliations to this group; The FLA accepts no form of racism, xenophobia, homophobia or indeed any form of bigotry.
All race, religion (and none) class, gender and social creed are welcome here and are indeed, encouraged to join us.
The FLA, for the moment, is non-politic, however, we have a common denominator, which is to peacefully challenge the dangerous threat manifesting inside the United Kingdom – Islamism.
The FLA will stand up to extremism in ALL forms wherever it presents itself. The FLA will exercise the right to free speech, which we belive is also under threat. We will stand against tyrannical ideology that exists across any discourse, particularly when it is an existential threat to our way of life, values and culture.
One more important point you need to understand.
Not all Muslims are Islamist, nor are they extremists, no one religion suffers more because of Fundamentalist Islam than other Muslims. It’s important you accept that, if you cannot then the FLA is not the place for you”.
Thanks – FLA admin
The organisation has made it quite clear across all their media platforms that racism, xenophobia, homophobia and bigotry are truly unwelcome. Several radical right-wingers have already attempted to hijack the movement and have subsequently been ejected/banned from all FLA social media and activities, they are not, and never will be, welcome at the FLA.
Recently the FLA denounced an international variant of the movement due to its explicit racism. Administrators of the FLA have also reported fake accounts being created with the sole purpose of dumping racists remarks across their group pages in an attempt to frame them – the FLA suspect this mischievous activity to originate from would be detractors on the left, to create lies about the FLA project a negative image and spread false information, this is disgraceful behaviour by the far left.
I won’t focus anymore on virtue, I have taken the time to find out for myself what the FLA represents to find it is far far removed from the sensational reports emanating from leftist media platforms.
Clearly, the FLA cannot control who appears at their marches, although the FLA will repudiate certain high profile political characters, they will not and simply cannot deny freedom of speech or freedom of assembly, even if they disagree with what is being espoused. They cannot be held guilty by association.
It’s also worth noting that there hasn’t been a single arrest at any of their events, irrespective of the goading and baiting by SUTR. Both marches have been good-natured and highly praised by the Metropolitan Police. Considering these are groups of men who have been confronting each other at football matches for over 40 years, and now, because the scourge of Islamism is not being held to account by the very people elected to defend them, the fight against Islamism has bound them together.
This an incredible change in the dynamic of this subculture, a massive mobilisation of the politically inert working class is indicative of the seriousness and scale of the Islamist problem in the UK – one we must all confront. Such a movement like the FLA would have been unimaginable years ago, inconceivable to many, especially the Police, who I’m sure are bewildered and sorely missing their Saturday overtime!
The “attacks on political correctness” by the FLA – as often (and only) reported by socialists – are perfectly legitimate “attacks” given the wide narrative of false reporting and misleading information being pushed out by the left. In particular, prominent figures of Jeremy Corbyn’s neo-Marxist Labour party.
Such people seek to close the free speech environment – to ensure open, honest and factual dialogue on Islamism and its inextricable link to terrorism remains absent. This subject has become so toxic that ordinary everyday people are terrified to speak out for fear of collective bullying or being singled out by groups like SUTR and SW. A disgusting smear and shame campaign they execute relentlessly, so joyously in their attempts to discredit and shut down anyone who isn’t a complimentary participant in their endlessly subjective cultural relativism.
In your article, have you have also completely failed to mention the why the FLA came to exist. You make no mention of it because you can’t face the problem, you won’t name the problem. Why are you so paralysed? Why have you become sorry bedfellows of the Islamofascists? the same people who love to Indiscriminately murder innocents across London and Manchester, a subversive, hideous and poisonous ideology inside Islam, that appears on mass media newsfeeds every single day in life across the globe, consistently wreaking havoc and harm, manifesting perpetual violence and hatred.
The far left has developed a curious symbiosis with terrorism. Which really should be no surprise given Jeremy Corbyn’s past relationship with terrorist organisations.
Since the far left have wholly embraced Islamic cultural relativism and utility it entwined into its hideous game of identity politics, they have pushed an agenda that attempts to close down dialogue that doesn’t advance their own Marxist pursuits. The left claim to represent the working class but we all know that’s simply not true.
Working class only seem to fit on the left nowadays when it’s “the right kind” of working class. Legitimate concerns of this group are dismissed wholesale, even real-world evidence-based working-class concerns tend to be overlooked and censored.
When they attempt to speak out they are caricatured and cartooned by the left as thuggish, too stupid, inarticulate, uneducated, not part of the intellectual or academic elite, perpetually ignored, opinions discarded, thrown on the scrapheap as an irrelevance, never to bear any significance. Opinion belittled through bigotry of low expectation.
“Shut up, dear troglodytes,” they sneer at you.
“Troglodytes” who are perceived to sit at the bottom of this social demographic often struggle to articulate the right words, to express themselves accurately. For once, I encourage you to try to reflect and consider why some people shout slogans such as “we want our country back”? It’s a fucking plea, they’re trying to let you know they’ve been forgotten, they’re shouting “what about me?” they’ve been left behind time and time again.
Try to view the world through their lens, examine if the triggers are actually legitimate. If you peel back the layers, you’ll find the same poverty, the same despair, the same working class as you. You just don’t want to acknowledge it.
They feel like they’ve been left behind by progressives, alienated, the political elite have no use for them anymore, the communities they grew up in have become unrecognisable ghettos, and they feel like strangers in a strange land.
There now exists an ugly disconnect between communities, all communities, communities that once spoke to each other – they’ve become completely fractured and fragmented. Successive governments have spectacularly implemented failed multicultural national and local immigration policies (by their own admission) that have led to massive integration failures that foster nothing more than ever growing suspicion and resentment, the loss of traditional social structures, identity and belonging is disappearing into a bitter, nihilistic void, so desperately needing to be filled.
Since the 60’s, when the French Marxist philosophers realised they weren’t going to get their way (because of Capitalism and because of its habit of…..er, working) the left started to love nothing more than to embrace and engage in the identity game, just not that identity, the FLA type of identity. You see, to the Marxist mind, each identity has value and worth and yours isn’t worth much to them. It’s nothing more than bigotry.
The far left now attempt to manufacture and exploit enemies across subgroups classes, to enhance their own virtue signal and political agenda, all the while encouraging the suspicion and dislike between groups. It’s fairly self-evident in everything they do. Just read between the lines.
Nothing better than finding the next most marginalised group to hijack.
So, to answer the question in your article – “Is it really a precursor to a new variant of far-right street politics and even a mass fascist movement? – The answer is absolute.
No, it’s not and to think otherwise be is puerile idiocy.
There isn’t, nor will there ever be, a re-emergence of fascism in the UK as claimed, if there is, be certain the FLA will stand alongside every other entity in rejecting it. To suggest or even infer the FLA could be part of such destructive ideology would be comical if it wasn’t so offensive to the ordinary men, women, children and war veterans of all races that have participated in both marches, joining the FLA in their tens of thousands.
Its fascism the FLA are standing up to. It was their fathers who fought the tyranny – why be so insulting to the fallen?
There is too much hysteria and mischief at play. It’s a pointless interventional knee-jerk to a street movement that SUTR don’t understand. It’s time to stop the ridiculously unfounded accusations and its accompanying adversarial dynamic. Judge the FLA by what they do, not on what you claim they intend to do or what you claim they are.
By doing so, you are willfully creating and encouraging conflict when none is necessary.
The FLA is nothing more than a working-class, grassroots movement, driven by an anti-extremism agenda, a desire is to see Islamism (not Islam) eliminated as a constant threat to UK national security.
The FLA was formed by a collective of concerned football fans after the Manchester bombing, fans who have put aside their tribal differences to collaborate and act as a UK pressure group against Islamic extremism, to draw attention at what they believe is a government with no actual substance to a working domestic policy when it comes to contending with one of the evilest ideologies to emerge inside the UK and wider Europe since the second world war.
The government’s policy “Operation constrain” was the final nail in the coffin of public tolerance on Islamism, offering council homes a bribe to returning Jihads who wish nothing more than the destruction of our civilisation is insanely insulting to the citizens of this country, especially when we have 7000 veterans sleeping on the streets across the UK, and tens of thousands of homeless children. This isn’t progressivism, this is the complete abandonment of reason, of the rule of law, of common sense. You are not sheltering us from violence, you’re sheltering would-be mass murderers of British families.
This is a national disgrace.
You state in the final paragraph “Movements like the FLA show that wide sections of society are alienated from bourgeois politics and that they will attempt to find different outlets and forms to express that discontent”
Though your concerns are baseless, the sentiment is fairly accurate. The FLA, in this current climate, is not a “fly by night” populist movement, they are a necessary organisation that provides representation, a voice of reason and an outlet for those who have been ignored by the elite for far too long. The FLA is still very much in its infancy, it will continue to grow, organising itself through legal, peaceful means. They have over 120,00 on Facebook, each club with its affiliations and continuing to grow exponentially.
The Football Lads Alliance intend to have their say on the future of their country. They will have a voice that means to be heard, the numbers are far too massive to ignore. What they become, what they look like going forward, who knows – but one thing is for sure, they are certainly here for the long term and they will only get bigger and stronger.
Finally, remember this small fact, the FLA is not your enemy.